"Balanced" PVP

2010-03-20 to 2010-03-31

WINNER: VINNIE

Format
PVP 3 different people - Win: 1 point | Lose: 0 points
3 rounds per PVP partner

General Restrictions/Rules/Regulations/you know what I mean not set in stone; discuss!
No donates or wings (yes falcon... lol. yes peco.)
No heroes
No cards
No HP/SP recovery items
No food boosts
No FCP (unless you're a creator)
No coma
Yes Sleipnir
Yes Accessories
No Ifrit Rings Kaitross
Yes Sight, if Sinx is hiding + grimtooth
Feel free to ask clarification questions

Class Restrictions
Assassin Cross : 2 EDP per round, 2 weapons (2 daggers, 1 dagger 1 katar, 1 dagger 1 shield)
Stalker :
Sniper : 2 uses full buffs, unlimited True Sight
Clown/Gypsy : no coma = no use of Tarot Card, 2 use of Attention Concentrate
Champion :
Priest :
Professor : no red or yellow gemstones
High Wizard :
Paladin : 1 sword/axe, 1 shield, 1 spear
Lord Knight : 2 weapons, 1 shield
Creator : 20 AD per round
Whitesmith : 2 uses of full WS buffs

Matches
Vinnie 3
Vinnie – Kait
Vinnie – Prash
Vinnie – Peyton

Assa 0
Assa – Rosanne
Assa – Sheena
Assa – Geso

Disperata 0
Disperata – Yufu
Disperata – Syniex
Disperata – Fiend

Kait 1
Kait – Vinnie
Kait – Joe
Kait – Syniex

Sigyn 1
Sigyn – Fiend
Sigyn – Sheena
Sigyn – Shion

Geso 1
Geso – Assa
Geso – Fiend
Geso – Kitty

Prash 1
Prash – Vinnie
Prash – Kitty
Prash – Yufu

Syniex 0
Syniex – Disperata
Syniex – Kait
Syniex – Hummy

Peyon 0
Peyton – Vinnie
Peyton – Rosanne
Peyton – Joe

Irresponsible 0
Irresponsible – Assa
Irresponsible – Kitty
Irresponsible – Rosanne

Yufu 0
Yufu – Disperata
Yufu – Prash
Yufu – Shion

Hummy 0
Hummy – Sheena
Hummy – Syniex
Hummy – Joe

Joe 0
Joe – Kait
Joe – Peyton
Joe – Hummy

Shion 0
Shion – Sigyn
Shion – Rosanne
Shion – Yufu

Kitty 3?
Kitty - Prash
Kitty - Geso
Kitty - [---]

Sheena 0
Sheena - Hummy
Sheena - Assa
Sheena - Sigyn

Fiend 0
Fiend – Disperata
Fiend – Sigyn
Fiend – Geso

Rosanne 0
Rosanne – Peyton
Rosanne – Shion
Rosanne – Assa

Prize
Wolf Egg
+ Cookie Bag x 15
+ Old Card Album x 10
+ Lutie Lady's Pancake x 5

Good luck all!

So, there are no class restrictions?
How you decide who fight who?!

I VOTE GTB NNNN!

yea NO GTB!! xDD

KabsBUB wrote:
hehe. this should be fun.
noting something, sumi - people don't really use level 3 weapons but 1...for the slots...
no donates= only made for the people who can't afford it, which i doubt there are any in your guild.
no cards? no way. it's all part the game.

what WOULD be fun is like. if everybody wore antonio card in a small map..... *grin =D
THAT would be WIN! (but i know, rigged in a way so that Sigyn always wins) ¬.¬ ;)

or maybe everyone could reduce their vit to 1 and we'd have fun with all the curse, confusion, stuns, silences (HA and no USABLES)
that'd be kinda interesting to see :P

and one day i'd imagine everyone having a "kill-the-kabs" contest xD
guild vs me :D. rofl. runnn!

and also....you could have 2 sinx both drink edp (so that hp starts draining) and have them pvp ;D, see who wins (nobody exactly can last long because...it drains hp!)

lol naked fights. sinx would win that... (kinda...fun!)

farming contests. rofl. jkjk

~Kabs

From Kabs on Exnw Forums~

ohoh and guys. more ideas here. :P

we can all have a usable item- only pvp event :D
no skillz, no buffs, JUST BOLT SCROLLS WHOOOO >:O

or just..added skills. like poison spore, jupitel thunder, lv 1/4 heal, bash, mamonite, frost diver, level 4 spikes/bolts, (cutlus kinda rox here...)

haha "coma wars" that's kinda like gambling too.
(yeah. that's kinda equip based too though)

or you can have 2 sides - fireblend vs ice falchions! wheee! xD
(though i have to say falchions are a little better o.o)

or you can play soccor by giving everybody a clip[2] with a poison spore/ poison toad and get some undead monster and knock it around the map xD

and lastly, an mvp ksing event would be really really fun for the linkers ^.~
haha thats my opinion xD

Or you can have some sort of tank in the middle of the map (like... a 70% reflect pally wearing undead armor. one side trying to heal him and one side trying to kill him =PP (melee only) - person that defends the longest wins! :D
lmao. i have silly ideas. :)

or you can have someone disguise themselves as a poring and hide around in the poring field :D hahaha that'd be kinda funny (and teleport around, but i have to say, that's pretty annoying)
(haha funny thought here - someone uses abra " ???? " on you, thinking you were a poring hahaha!)

i still like that idea of a mob of people dressed up as santa porings... (Sigyn! don't endow Kaitross!!!!!!!!) Dx - that'd be fun to kill things in muka~

and honestly, what i find the most fun is endless tower. if only people would diversify their class types, we'd have so much fun. imagine it - say, a pally tanks someone's damage, someone takes care of the mobs, etc. everything in this game is fun when you have friends that specialize and excel in their roles.

having all level 4 weapons and slotless gear would be fun too :P

ah. out of ideas. i'll post sometime this week :P
(i won't be on for a big while)
~Kabs

when will this be hosted?

I believe the plan is to hold fights over next week, though im not sure how it will work with siggy's absence...

Aw.. :[ sadness.

Sooo many ideas! :D :D Thanks a bunch! I'll reread more carefully and file them in a little bit; studies/exams atm, but I just wanted to say thanks!

And obviously, with my absence, that means I'll just hand the to-be bracket to Kaitross and let him hold some rounds? >:| Get people to sign up!

Kabs wrote:and honestly, what i find the most fun is endless tower. if only people would diversify their class types, we'd have so much fun. imagine it - say, a pally tanks someone's damage, someone takes care of the mobs, etc. everything in this game is fun when you have friends that specialize and excel in their roles.

Quick note though... I do kinda feel like we do that... :o Kait plays sinx: main/only attacker; I play prof: bolts hd safety wall support; when Shion plays prof, she does the same; when she plays creator, we have our FCP-er; when Vinnie's there on pala, he's amazing at tanking damage and keeping us alive, plus gospel support; and we usually try to bring a priest along. :o Wizzies help with clearing the floors too~ Though I'm not sure Shion was too happy with that aspect last endless XDD;

(vinnie wasn't too happy either)
mi pala suk!
sign me up twice!

Sumiyaki wrote:

Quick note though... I do kinda feel like we do that... :o Kait plays sinx: main/only attacker; I play prof: bolts hd safety wall support; when Shion plays prof, she does the same; when she plays creator, we have our FCP-er; when Vinnie's there on pala, he's amazing at tanking damage and keeping us alive, plus gospel support; and we usually try to bring a priest along. :o Wizzies help with clearing the floors too~ Though I'm not sure Shion was too happy with that aspect last endless XDD;

heh. and i'll play leveler! :D lol jkjk
i can't believe i died last time because um. i had likie 8 berries on me and was... overweight.... >__>
but um. so. your point is= you need more attackers? (kai needs more def :|)
lets get him some cowardice blades

~Kabs

Oh. and siggy.

i think you should allow sting/rideword/stem worm cards...
don't you think it's kinda gay to not have instant cast? :o.
like....coz sinx will have the upperhand with low cast times for things like soulbreaker
and no cards also means magic class= ownage (no reflect, no blocking)...
like, for example, only linker could beat a magic class in that case.
and i suppose kaizel should be legal coz it takes like 2 seconds to cast now =PP... (as well as no osiris)
now imagine wizard class.....with like 4 second casting times for storm guest...@___@
if I ever participate in this thing, i'm choosing sniper class. :)
like, how lame is it to have a class that can hit 196 aspd right then, need no phreeoni, and spam falcon assault (which is great knowing you can't wear ghostring/ deviling) and kill any cast time you have on the spot?
i suppose a bard with a link is legal?? O_O (-> invincible with ifrit rings - assumptio!)

i just thought of something funny here. heh. hilarious if someone had 4x hydro cards here, but oops, no cards...

~Kabs

HAha, i like that 4 hydro! Hmm. this is like mega-handicapped. i'll lvoe it play it.

Peyton would like to register for event~

reg'd up there o:

Sounds like fun though I'll have to get creative with a naked crea if no cards and things are allowed ;-;

XD Yea, I wish it'd be more updated though~

x__x

Kay. Since obviously there will be a lot more discussion needed for actual "balanced" PVP and we can't really... figure it all out in the immediate future, we're just gonna hold this first one as a test run with really basic balancing attempts, and we'll make modifications off of that for the next PVP event. Sound good?

No donates or wings
Level 3 weapons and under
No cards
No HP/SP recovery items
No food boosts
No FCP (unless you're a crea, of course)
No buffs (unless you're a priest/champ)

N> input for specific class restrictions
Sinx: limit number of EDPs?
Sniper: No Attention Concentrate??
Professor: No dispelling Stalkers, Yellow and Blue gemstones (no Stone Curse)
Paladin: one sword, one shield?
Creator: limit number of ADs?

Edp limit bad ;(

Kaitross wrote:Edp limit bad ;(

*kicks* More input!
It can't be that bad. ;( 3 EDP per round?

Sniper: only allowed to use Attention Concentrate once?
Prof: only Blue gemstones (no Stone, no Dispel?)

Ohhhh 3 per round works just fine, it's just the whole "5 for whole event" thing the gm's pulled was pretty lame, and that's why there was not one sinx there. :x

SO.
Today, 2 hours after WoE, is the DEADLINE to register for PVP event! If you are not on that list on the first page and you want to be, LET ME KNOW. I'll be reminding people before, after, and throughout WoE as well. I need a clear list because I don't know how to random generate so that each person gets 3 and only 3 rounds... so I'll have to do it manually. :X

LOOK at the class restrictions. If there's something you don't agree with, let me know ASAP or those will be the restrictions for this first PVP event! Feel free to suggest any modifications whatsoever!

Sumiyaki wrote:

N> input for specific class restrictions
Sinx: limit number of EDPs?
Sniper: No Attention Concentrate??
Professor: No dispelling Stalkers, Yellow and Blue gemstones (no Stone Curse)
Paladin: one sword, one shield?
Creator: limit number of ADs?

lol. no. don't limit the # of AD's... that's a crutch to them. and plus. there's no limit to AD's, it's bottles and grenades ;D hahaha jkjk
and pally.... spearz pl0x too!
thats like saying sinx: swords only. lol.
and omg. no attention concentrate? you're kidding me...
personally, i think stone curse will really kill anyone here...

lets limit pvp size arena, and allow kaizel coz you can't have phen to cast cancel and it takes 2 seconds to cast anyways. :x
and no running. i'd imagine a champ running around, dangerous soul collecting and absorbing spirits until you get 100% sp for another asura, and also moving around to use lv 10 heal while casting decrease agi the whole time... o_o

heh i thought of one: no mvp cards. (or any of more than 1 mil)
i think it'd be best if you limited by equip prices. that way, everyone can get instant.... (because some classes need it more than others)

i'm thinking of alot of really nice equips, all card-less, but all the ones with good effects are like. daggers and swords....
*not telling, so that you guys can all use your intelligence to pwn kaitross * =D

~Kabs

KabsBUB wrote:

Sumiyaki wrote:

N> input for specific class restrictions
Sinx: limit number of EDPs?
Sniper: No Attention Concentrate??
Professor: No dispelling Stalkers, Yellow and Blue gemstones (no Stone Curse)
Paladin: one sword, one shield?
Creator: limit number of ADs?

lol. no. don't limit the # of AD's... that's a crutch to them. and plus. there's no limit to AD's, it's bottles and grenades ;D hahaha jkjk
and pally.... spearz pl0x too!
thats like saying sinx: swords only. lol.
and omg. no attention concentrate? you're kidding me...
personally, i think stone curse will really kill anyone here...

lets limit pvp size arena, and allow kaizel coz you can't have phen to cast cancel and it takes 2 seconds to cast anyways. :x
and no running. i'd imagine a champ running around, dangerous soul collecting and absorbing spirits until you get 100% sp for another asura, and also moving around to use lv 10 heal while casting decrease agi the whole time... o_o

heh i thought of one: no mvp cards. (or any of more than 1 mil)
i think it'd be best if you limited by equip prices. that way, everyone can get instant.... (because some classes need it more than others)

i'm thinking of alot of really nice equips, all card-less, but all the ones with good effects are like. daggers and swords....
*not telling, so that you guys can all use your intelligence to pwn kaitross * =D

~Kabs

I updated the front page after I posted Dx You should look at those~ Added the spear thing though, it just slipped my mind.

Other notable modifications
Prof: only blue gemstones
Sniper/Clown/Gypsy: only 1 use of attn conc
WS: 2 use of full buffs

Maybe it'll be 2 attn concentrate, I don't really know.

I agree, it should be a small PVP area.

I... personally do feel like AD should be limited. It's insta cast right? And it hurts like hell. :X Only champ/priest stand a chance at avoiding it, hard for prof to fight back in a Wall of Fog (and no insta), snipers keep distance and they can win, everyone else gets instantly owned? :x

Same reason for no stone curse.

Keep suggestions coming, rounds will likely start tomorrow...

Matches

Vinnie – Kait
Vinnie – Prash
Vinnie – Peyton

Assa – Irresponsible
Assa – Sheena
Assa – Geso

Disperata – Yufu
Disperata – Syniex
Disperata – Fiend

Kait – Vinnie
Kait – Joe
Kait – Syniex

Sigyn – Fiend
Sigyn – Sheena
Sigyn – Shion

Geso – Assa
Geso – Fiend
Geso – Kitty

Prash – Vinnie
Prash – Kitty
Prash – Yufu

Syniex – Disperata
Syniex – Kait
Syniex – Hummy

Peyton – Vinnie
Peyton – [-----]
Peyton – Joe

Irresponsible – Assa
Irresponsible – Kitty
Irresponsible – Shion

Yufu – Disperata
Yufu – Prash
Yufu – Shion

Hummy – Sheena
Hummy – Syniex
Hummy – Joe

Joe – Kait
Joe – Peyton
Joe – Hummy

Shion – Sigyn
Shion – Irresponsible
Shion – Yufu

Kitty - Prash
Kitty - Geso
Kitty - Irresponsible

Sheena - Hummy
Sheena - Assa
Sheena - Sigyn

Fiend – Disperata
Fiend – Sigyn
Fiend – Geso